I'm a BBC, Star Wars & Marvel lover and a fantasy freak. Basically, this is just a shipper's blog. + I love F1. Like, a lot. Vettel/Ferrari/McLaren is what I'm here for.
Currently obsessing over Stranger Things & Byler š
will being abused by his father his whole life then having to be abducted and assaulted by a terrifying creature at 12 years old only to be rescued from the upside down and experience PTSD as well as still being tied to vecna for years and having to go through that all over again in s5… I AM SICK. GIVE WILL BYERS HIS HAPPY ENDING OR ELSE
Could Will be fighting back using blue forces against whatever Vecna is trying to do with the red explosions?
Here is the evidence that leads me to believe thisā¦
@tryingonametaphor also mentioned that this supports the Will Byers created the Upside Down theory because the Upside Down is blue whereas Vecnaās lair is red!
Will is encompassed in red lighting in the picture below to the right as Vecna taunts himā¦
In this shot of Will below, we can see bright blue light take over as from the left side as he is in deep focusā¦
Some food for thought about the teaser & What I think is going on?
First of all, Iām gonna take you back to last year because we will need those information later.
I will revisit everything quickly before connecting the dots, in case you werenāt here during the filming or just need a reminder.
- CHURCH SET
This set was a VERY important filming place during last year, in which they closed all the close roads and everything.
The set also had a crazily big crane, basically everything that screams itās an important place.
That set was built late May 2024 for the first time, shortly after it was taken down & the filming was delayed to August, due to an actor being unavailable.
It all happened around two weeks, so it was a situation with that actor that happened suddenly. People initially thought itās Millie, but she was being seen hanging out with her husband so it wasnāt her.During that time, none of the actors were really unavailable. Except Noah, who had a really visible stye on his eye this exact time.
Which means he wonāt be able to use contacts, and it will just look bad in close up shots. So he was most likely the actor they delayed this filming for.
ā FINN & NOAHāS REHEARSAL
During these weeks, we were informed about Finn and Noah flying to set on their off day just to rehearse an important scene, the two of them. And the church was newly being built, even the information we got was them rehearsing for the church. So itās safe to day that was true.
ā FILMING IN CHURCH
In August 2024, the set was built back. They filmed multiple scenes there with older teens and some other characters, but Noah or Finn wasnāt seen during those filmings even if they were supposedly filming that week, probably in somewhere else.
However, to our surprise the production went back to the church set in October 2024, two months later, with Noah (confirmed) Nell and Finn (at some point, according to locals). This filming took 4 days in total.
ā EPISODE INFORMATION
Every information we had points out to this scenes taking place in episode 6 - 7. The best guess is the scene with Noah taking place in episode 7 The Bridge, and some other scenes being in episode 6.
Speaking of episode 6, we have absolutely no information about Will in this episode. We were able to learn such kind of information for all the filming era, but for episode 6 Will is nowhere to be found.
The only thing I have is that Noah was filming something separately from the rest for a while. Jamie was also on set the same exact week. Not being 100% sure about this, that was from episode 6 because I remember thinking how thatās all we got from that episode about Will.
What I think is going on?
At the end of episode 5 / beginning of episode 6, Will disappears.
Him filming with Nell in the church pretty much confirms she was trapped there. And when you put everything together, it very much seems like Will is there for her. Knowing him, sacrificing for an innocent kid who is about to have the same fate as him and is Mikeās sister on top of that, is something that he definitely would do. He even might be tormented by Vecna, being shown visions of her, just to pull him in there willingly. And of course Will would do that, this might be how he finds her.
The scene of El going into the deprivation tank might be to find them. El seems to be comforting Mike in this scene, reassuring him about both her safety & finding them. Mike seems to be down and needs reassurance, which makes sense knowing how it would hit him to not be able to save his little sister, then losing Will, then putting El in danger.
And thanks to Shawn Levy posting a bts of this scene before, we know it happens in his episode, aka the episode we donāt hear from Will, episode 6.
You could also argue that itās about Max, but i think Escape from the Camazots is already the episode she finally manages to wake up. But still, could be. I canāt add more about this Max possibility because of our lack of information about her, so Iām gonna stick with the other possibility. The theory could still work without this exact scene not being about this.
After the gang finds out where they are, they go to the church, which are the multiple outdoor scenes that were filmed in there.
And the second filming that happened with Noah, and possibly with Nell and Finn, is when Mike comes in to save the day, to try, at least.
In his post, Ross confirmed only episode 7 was not included in the teaser, which is the episode this takes place in, probably along with some Max stuff.
Holly having a cleric figurine and Mike telling her āit will keep her safeā made me almost sure it was gonna be Will who ends up saving her, and all of this just adds to it.
General Opinions:
About this Elmike scene iām honestly one of those who didnāt experience doubt (as usual for me but wait, listen).
First of all the aim of a teaser is to remind the audience where they left while also giving them a general opinion on the new season. It is not meant to you give you any spoilers, nor let you know about the outcomes of the unresolved arcs. Especially when youāre watching Stranger Things, after Ross had to make it clear while posting the teaser, Imao.
You did not imagine byler when itās not there. Willās love for Mike took them three seasons to build up. Two seasons of Willās character arc has been solely about his sexuality and love for Mike. Mikeās behavior with El and Will has been put in an unexplainable way. And most importantly, the plot was left unresolved to the final season.
So no, The Duffers arenāt trying to give the message to delusional byler fans, they, in fact know where they put this story and how would the fans react to it.
And no, theyāre not letting you know about the outcome of this plot that took them seasons to build up through a teaser which they sweared up and down isnāt spoilery.
We also need to stop freaking out every time we see El and Mike together. If we want this to work, there has to be actual heart-to-heart moments between them that will contradict their dynamic during the relationship.
Also, we already know Mike and Will share 85% of this season together, and if you didnāt see them in the teaser, congrats, there is something to hide there.
Other than that Iām pretty caught up with the scene where Vecna himself comes for an unconscious Will and only Mike & Joyce being there to save him. I canāt even imagine watching this sequence & the aftermath of it with Byler.
There has never been a scene like this where Mike saves Will like this when heās not fully unconscious, especially not from something like this. Weāre so getting s2 byler on steroids itās crazy to think about.
Anyway, i think thatās all i have in mind now, reblog with opinions if you have something to add! I could discuss those stuff for hours. <333
This question asked by a mileven to finn wolfhard mightāve been one of the best proofs bylers got today lmao.
There is so much to unpack here.
āWhat makes miIeven so strong?ā ā Finn didnāt address this at all. Is their āloveā really so strong if he canāt easily speak on it? lol. Caleb was going on about how unconditional and forever lumaxās love was today. Those were the words he used. And Noah went on and on about bylerās bond at his last panel in 2024.
Instead of answering how their love is so strong, Finn starts talking about how romance was the last thing on Mikeās mind when he met El. This easily kills the ālove at first sightā from the monologue, which is hilarious because the questioner is asking āhow does Mikeās monologue impact them after season 4ā. So not only did he ignore the question, but he also contradicts the monologue that the questioner wants to hear more about, not once, but THREE TIMES ššš
āI dont think romance was on his mind even when he initially found elevenā
ādidnāt perceive himself to be in any romantic relationshipā
āthat wasnāt even on his mindā
Next heās comparing el to ET: the least romantic dynamic ever. ET is an alien that a boy named elliot takes care of. So apparently thatās how Mike initially saw Elā like a pet he had to take care of. (This is not news and has been said multiple times by the duffers and finn by the way). Oh and ET says goodbye and leaves at the end of the movie.
ārelationship with a lot of peopleā, āfeelings towards someoneā ā Keeping it gender neutral I see :))
āfirst loveā, āthat relationship is his first romantic feelings for someoneā ā Usually people signify the relationship being a first because itās not the LAST either *chuckles*. Interesting how finn doesnāt say anything like āthat relationship is his ONLY romantic feelings towards someoneā if he wanted to emphasize how deeply in love they are like how the questioner so clearly wanted him to lol
āgoing into season 5ā, āstill a couple going into itā ā So he said not once but twice āgoing intoā¦ā He seems to want to make it really clear heās ONLY referring to the beginning of the season and nothing else, because itās literal common sense. mike and el ended off season 4 together, so yeah no fucking duh theyāre starting off season 5 together?? Like what lol.
āthatās all I can say about 5ā ā So zero indication that Mileven are still together in the middle, or the end, or anywhere beyond the start of season 5.
Now what would be a better more pro-mileven response to this question? Probably something like this (Iām essentially taking stuff Noah and Caleb have said about byler and lumax and mashing them together):
The romantic relationship between Mike and El is a foundational element of stranger things. What makes them so strong and how does Mikeās confession impact them after season 4?
I think what makes Mike and El so strong is their unconditional love and connection with each other, just as what Mikeās confession showed. I canāt give spoilers about season 5, but Iām just excited for you guys to see it. Like I think all throughout the seasons, I have have so many great scenes with millie. I canāt spoil anything but Mike and Elās relationship has been so important all throughout, and youāll see what they will face in season 5.
Iām just feeling a kind of way about Jon having been there helping Lando and celebrating his wins since even before 2015 (when he also won a race at Silverstone in British F4), like more than full decade of support. Theyāve worked so hard for this š„¹